Four Fs Podcast
Welcome to the official Four Fs podcast. Hosted by Jeff Cluff, each episode dives into authentic conversations with remarkable people across technology, business, and everyday life. Everyone has a story. This is the place they come to share it.
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Nov. 17, 2025
Overcoming Failure in Entrepreneurship: Surex.com Co-Founder Matt Als…
What does it take to revolutionize an entire industry while staying true to your roots? Join host Jeff Cluff in this captivating episode of the Four Fs Podcast as he engages in an authentic conversation with Matt Alston, a dy...
Recent Episodes
Jan. 14, 2026
From Fighter Pilot to Leadership Coach: Identity, Discipline, and Building a Life That Fits | Lorin Jeppsen
In this episode, Lorin Jeppsen shares an unfiltered conversation about identity, leadership, discipline, and what it really means to live authentically. From being adopted and growing up in Utah, to flying B-52s in the U.S. A...
Jan. 7, 2026
Somatic Integration & Emotional Regulation Expert Joshua Kahn on Identidy, Trauma, and the Power of Community
In this deeply honest and wide-ranging conversation, Jeff sits down with Joshua Kahn to explore identity, trauma, purpose, and what it really means to grow when life refuses to follow a straight line. Joshua’s story is shaped...
Dec. 28, 2025
A Winter Life Well Lived: Creativity, Courage, and Reinvention With Snow Magazine & Snow Tequila Boss: Barb Sanders
In this conversation, CEO and Founder (Snow Magazine, Snow Tequila, and The Snow Society) Barb Sanders shares her journey from aspiring ski instructor to successful entrepreneur, highlighting her passion for skiing and the co...
Dec. 24, 2025
The Long Way Around: From Law School to Mining Sites and Meaningful Work. With Safety Expert Desai Link
In this episode, Jeff sits down with Desai Link to explore an unconventional career journey— how he walked away from a career in law to work in a warehouse driving a forklift. From studying law and history to working fly-in f...
Dec. 19, 2025
A Lifetime Of Lessons In Resilience with Tech Executive Turned Non-Profit Leader Himani Naresh
From a $1.25 subway arrest in New York City to graduating from the Wharton Business School at the University of Pennsylvania, Himani Naresh’s story is a masterclass in resilience, reinvention, and navigating life across cultu...
Dec. 12, 2025
From Nashville to LA and Back Again: Elijah Donnelly on Creativity, Faith, and Starting Over at 30
In this powerful episode of the Four Fs Podcast, filmmaker and storyteller Elijah Donnelly shares an extraordinary journey shaped by resilience, reinvention, and the courage to start over when life doesn’t go as planned. Rais...
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